't some separate category, but human rights, and everything that that entailed for access to education, to economic participation, political participation, to be free from violence, and i think when she came out of that setting, no matter where one stood on the political spectrum, right or left, the unanimous conclusion was that it was probably her most historic moment from that time until when she said it and that she was such an extraordinary voice for the united states and all of the values that we held true. you remember so well the thunderous, positive reaction she got in that hall, and she went through a littany of violations of women's rights and said that each of those was, indeed, a violation of human rights. it was like the beginning of a movement. it sparked so much. to this day whenever people meet her or me or so many others, they say i'm so and so, and i was in beijing. it's short-hand for i am committed to what this represented and what you did. >> so now what happens with afghanistan? there's a withdrawal afoot. it's accelerating. what happens to the women of afghanista